• Why all computer casing & cables are black?

    From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Thu Jul 9 17:28:33 2026

    Why all computer casing & cables are black?
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  • From Woozy Song@suzyw0ng@outlook.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sat Jul 11 10:55:27 2026
    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Why all computer casing & cables are black?


    I have a bunch of SATA cables in junk drawer: some black, also red,
    blue, orange and grey
  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Fri Jul 10 20:32:02 2026
    On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 17:28:33 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

    Why all computer casing & cables are black?

    You might be looking at the casing and cables in the dark. Without
    light, what's left is dark. Try turning on a light.

    If you're using a camera, try switching from B&W to color mode. If
    that doesn't work, check if the monitor has the power turned on.

    If you're doing this at night, try again after the sun rises. If
    you're wearing sunglasses at night, see if removing the sunglasses
    helps. Also check if you're wearing tinted glasses, blinders, or dark
    glasses for the blind.

    If you're wearing smart glasses or auto-darkening welding goggles,
    check if it's turned on, properly adjusted and if the battery is fully
    charged.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558
  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sat Jul 11 19:18:48 2026
    On 7/11/2026 11:32 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    You might be looking at the casing and cables in the dark. Without
    light, what's left is dark. Try turning on a light.
    ....
    If you're wearing smart glasses or auto-darkening welding goggles,
    check if it's turned on, properly adjusted and if the battery is fully charged.

    Why isn't the default color WHITE? Or red? Why black? :)
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
    The game is afoot... Meow...
  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sat Jul 11 08:02:54 2026
    On Sat, 11 Jul 2026 19:18:48 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/11/2026 11:32 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    You might be looking at the casing and cables in the dark. Without
    light, what's left is dark. Try turning on a light.
    ....
    If you're wearing smart glasses or auto-darkening welding goggles,
    check if it's turned on, properly adjusted and if the battery is fully
    charged.

    Why isn't the default color WHITE? Or red? Why black? :)

    Because the outer sheath of cables needs to be UV resistant. That's
    done by adding carbon black to the mix during manufacture. Carbon
    black has and important attribute. It is cheap. If you want a white
    outer sheath, the manufacturer would likely add titanium dioxide,
    which costs more.

    <https://www.facebook.com/Elec.Eng.World/posts/cable-outer-sheaths-are-often-black-because-carbon-black-is-added-for-excellent-/1365758712263483/>
    "Cable outer sheaths are often black because carbon black is added for excellent, cost-effective UV resistance, preventing sun damage, and it
    also offers good durability against mechanical wear, making black a
    practical default for outdoor or heavy-duty cables, though other
    colors exist for specific applications like data or color-coding."

    "The Roles of Carbon Black in Wire & Cable Conductor, Insulation and
    Jacketing Applications" <https://www.birlacarbon.com/the-roles-of-carbon-black-in-wire-cable-conductor-insulation-and-jacketing-applications/>
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558
  • From Brian Gregory@void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sat Jul 11 18:38:14 2026
    On 11/07/2026 12:18, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 7/11/2026 11:32 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    You might be looking at the casing and cables in the dark.  Without
    light, what's left is dark.  Try turning on a light.
    ....
    If you're wearing smart glasses or auto-darkening welding goggles,
    check if it's turned on, properly adjusted and if the battery is fully
    charged.

    Why isn't the default color WHITE? Or red? Why black? :)


    It used not to be black.

    I remember when computer cases and many cables were almost all beige.

    I guess it's mainly fashion.
    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).
  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sat Jul 11 13:48:16 2026
    On Sat, 11 Jul 2026 18:38:14 +0100, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

    On 11/07/2026 12:18, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 7/11/2026 11:32 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    You might be looking at the casing and cables in the dark.  Without
    light, what's left is dark.  Try turning on a light.
    ....
    If you're wearing smart glasses or auto-darkening welding goggles,
    check if it's turned on, properly adjusted and if the battery is fully
    charged.

    Why isn't the default color WHITE? Or red? Why black? :)


    It used not to be black.

    I beg to differ. All the early POTS phones were black. In 1959, Ma
    Bell introduces the "princess" in a multitude of colors. It was
    mostly a flop because AT&T wanted a too much money for the colorful
    phones. Because there was no competition, the telephone monopoly had
    no interest style, fashion, trendish design, elaborate options, etc,
    Ma Bell offered exactly one color... black. Same with the early Ford automobiles. You can have any color you want, as long as it's black.
    In 1968, after the phone monopoly was broken up into regional "baby
    Bell" units and independent hardware vendors were allowed to provide
    "foreign attachments", one of the first thing offered were colorful
    (princess) phones.

    I remember when computer cases and many cables were almost all beige.

    There was a good reason for pushing beige colored computers.

    "I am stuck in a Beige Bubble" <https://elledecor.in/sad-beige-interiors-trend-aesthetic/>
    The short answer is that beige is the ultimate in "neutral" colors,
    which means it goes well with most other colors and does not clash
    with any of the primary colors. I suggest some reading on "color
    psychology"

    I guess it's mainly fashion.

    Sorta, kinda, maybe. Fashion has it's place, but it's a bad thing
    upon which to base a product design or company image. I'll make it
    easy. Just follow the money. If there's a financial reason for doing something that doesn't seem obvious, you have just discovered the
    answer.
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558
  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@toylet.toylet@gmail.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sun Jul 12 21:19:21 2026
    On 7/12/2026 4:48 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    I beg to differ. All the early POTS phones were black. In 1959, Ma
    Bell introduces the "princess" in a multitude of colors....


    You guys and gals remember the flag of
    islamic State? It's black.

    Fossil fuel and coal are also black.

    Does this ring a bell? Meow.... :)
    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw
    The game is afoot... Meow...
  • From Allodoxaphobia@trepidation@example.net to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sun Jul 12 13:22:31 2026
    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 20:32:02 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
    On Thu, 9 Jul 2026 17:28:33 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
    <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

    Why all computer casing & cables are black?

    If you're wearing smart glasses

    Not the case. Nothing 'smart' has ever emanated from that source.
  • From legg@legg@nospam.magma.ca to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sun Jul 12 10:11:09 2026
    On Sat, 11 Jul 2026 13:48:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 11 Jul 2026 18:38:14 +0100, Brian Gregory ><void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

    On 11/07/2026 12:18, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 7/11/2026 11:32 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    You might be looking at the casing and cables in the dark.  Without
    light, what's left is dark.  Try turning on a light.
    ....
    If you're wearing smart glasses or auto-darkening welding goggles,
    check if it's turned on, properly adjusted and if the battery is fully >>>> charged.

    Why isn't the default color WHITE? Or red? Why black? :)


    It used not to be black.

    I beg to differ. All the early POTS phones were black. In 1959, Ma
    Bell introduces the "princess" in a multitude of colors. It was
    mostly a flop because AT&T wanted a too much money for the colorful
    phones. Because there was no competition, the telephone monopoly had
    no interest style, fashion, trendish design, elaborate options, etc,
    Ma Bell offered exactly one color... black. Same with the early Ford >automobiles. You can have any color you want, as long as it's black.
    In 1968, after the phone monopoly was broken up into regional "baby
    Bell" units and independent hardware vendors were allowed to provide
    "foreign attachments", one of the first thing offered were colorful >(princess) phones.

    I remember when computer cases and many cables were almost all beige.

    There was a good reason for pushing beige colored computers.

    "I am stuck in a Beige Bubble" ><https://elledecor.in/sad-beige-interiors-trend-aesthetic/>
    The short answer is that beige is the ultimate in "neutral" colors,
    which means it goes well with most other colors and does not clash
    with any of the primary colors. I suggest some reading on "color
    psychology"

    I guess it's mainly fashion.

    Sorta, kinda, maybe. Fashion has it's place, but it's a bad thing
    upon which to base a product design or company image. I'll make it
    easy. Just follow the money. If there's a financial reason for doing >something that doesn't seem obvious, you have just discovered the
    answer.

    When they were built by hand, rubber sleave was typically black.

    More modern cables in grey PVC.

    It took UL a long time to accept that color additives didn't
    necessarily affect flammability or temperature class.
    Color of insulation material is still specified, to this day.

    RL
  • From Jeff Liebermann@jeffl@cruzio.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sun Jul 12 07:24:55 2026
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 21:19:21 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 7/12/2026 4:48 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    I beg to differ. All the early POTS phones were black. In 1959, Ma
    Bell introduces the "princess" in a multitude of colors....


    You guys and gals remember the flag of
    islamic State? It's black.

    The 3rd Abbasid Caliphate had a black flag: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Standard>
    The modern Islamic flags are mostly green and red: <https://www.google.com/search?udm=2&q=islamic%20flags> <https://karachiinsider.wordpress.com/2013/09/28/flags-of-islamic-countries/>

    Fossil fuel and coal are also black.

    Automobile tire manufacturing is the major user of carbon black for
    increased durability and UV protection. Just about anything that
    contains elemental carbon is going to be black.

    Does this ring a bell? Meow.... :)

    Not really. What's your point?

    More of the same...

    Black is beautiful:
    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_is_beautiful>

    All the villains in the early movies and TV shows wore black. <https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilWearsBlack>

    Black cars have a higher resale value: <https://satjapan.com/car-blog/pros-and-cons-of-purchasing-a-black-car/>
    "One of the most amazing advantages of buying a black car is its high
    resale value."

    Black cars attract automobile accidents: <https://www.citywidelaw.com/los-angeles-car-accident-attorney/car-color-and-crash-risk/>
    "Some research has revealed that black vehicles are the most dangerous
    on the road. At least one study found that you’re 47 percent more
    likely to be in a crash if you drive a black vehicle."

    and so on...
    --
    Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
    PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
    Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272 AE6KS 831-336-2558
  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Mon Jul 13 08:26:08 2026
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 21:19:21 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    On 7/12/2026 4:48 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    I beg to differ. All the early POTS phones were black. In 1959, Ma
    Bell introduces the "princess" in a multitude of colors....


    You guys and gals remember the flag of

    Now you're on a few more watch lists


    Fossil fuel and coal are also black.

    wrong... not all fossil fuel is black, gas, a fossil fuel, is invisible

    also, there is no "and" in that, because coal is a fossil fuel.
  • From Lane W@cactus_DAC@yahoo.com to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Sun Jul 12 16:58:36 2026
    noel wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 21:19:21 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    On 7/12/2026 4:48 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    I beg to differ. All the early POTS phones were black. In 1959, Ma
    Bell introduces the "princess" in a multitude of colors....


    You guys and gals remember the flag of

    Now you're on a few more watch lists


    Fossil fuel and coal are also black.

    wrong... not all fossil fuel is black, gas, a fossil fuel, is invisible

    also, there is no "and" in that, because coal is a fossil fuel.


    Are you saying Man wai Chung is going to electrocute himself?
  • From noel@deletethis@invalid.lan to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,sci.electronics.repair,alt.engineering.electrical on Mon Jul 13 12:02:51 2026
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 16:58:36 -0600, Lane W wrote:

    noel wrote:
    On Sun, 12 Jul 2026 21:19:21 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    On 7/12/2026 4:48 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

    I beg to differ. All the early POTS phones were black. In 1959, Ma
    Bell introduces the "princess" in a multitude of colors....


    You guys and gals remember the flag of

    Now you're on a few more watch lists


    Fossil fuel and coal are also black.

    wrong... not all fossil fuel is black, gas, a fossil fuel, is invisible

    also, there is no "and" in that, because coal is a fossil fuel.


    Are you saying Man wai Chung is going to electrocute himself?

    Nah, I'm sure he's that paranoid he wears flashover suits everytime he
    turn the kitchen light on.

    I think he's seen way too many conspiracy movies from hollywood, next
    thing he'll be complaining about is that low flying black helicopter
    above his place at 3AM